5Toubun no Hanayome Japanese

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Ch. 54 - Fools’ Battle
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@dragonite7

"Almost only counts in horseshoes, Cutman." --Proto Man

He was given a task and failed. Hell, even the characters agree that the dad's plan is probably the best one to go with.
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@ImmortalDao Thanks.
I try to always be open to change my opinion should other present good arguments, and I always hope others have the same mindset.
But I guess there's people you just can't reason with...
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@Asta
Ignore him man. You made your point quiet clear and he has some problems reading.
He's no not the best father but he's more normal than it was described in the previous chapters.

Last edited 23 days ago by ImmortalDao.

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@Asta
You can write as much as you want. You can straw man as much as you want. Because everything you've said in your response, whether it's a claim of what I've said, or what I've intended, or what you claim or what you've said, it ends up being a blatant lie, or a simple fallacy. Your entire comment is loaded with them. I've learned that pointing out inconsistencies, fallacies and blatant lies to self important narcissists gets no where. The analogy of a boot full of water comes to mind.

At the end of they day, you said that the man who buys his kids whatever they want, solves all his problems with money, and never bothers to be in the same building, let alone room as them is a good father all things considered. You seem to think you're saying a lot more than you are, and you seem to think I'm saying a lot more than I am. You're making connections and claims that aren't there. You keep changing your opinions mid sentence. You can keep arguing from a position of unparalleled ignorance. I'd care if you actually exhibited you had a fraction of an understand of what you're talking about.
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@Yautja

Even if it seems good, throwing money at a situation like this doesn't make it good. It makes shit worse.


Well, for starters, I haven't said that his absence isn't a problem, something you could've realized if you actually took the time to understand what I said. I haven't said that money can replace fatherly love and attention.
Second, throwing money at what situation. Are you genuinely arguing that absent parents + money = future psychopath , and that regardless of other factors ?
We're not even close to know the full scope of their situation.
I'd understand your position if the girls were shown to be problematic kids when they were little, in which case, yeah, giving money to them and hoping the problem would go away on its own would be a bad idea. But that's not the case.

That kinda crap is the reason rich kids like those end up being psychopaths like that affluenza lunatic.


Your only point of comparison in this case in the fact they are rich and possibly have been missing a role model.
Moreover, your deduction is based on a supposition, which make for a pretty weak argument.

And again, that's not me saying that there's nothing wrong with an absent father, but boy do you blow things out of proportion.

You're the one minimizing by literally saying he's "a pretty good father"


I'm sorry, but do you have reading comprehension problems ?
I said you were dismissing my arguments by minimizing them, when the correct course of actions would be to actually address them.
Also, this sentence in itself not only is misleading, because you conveniently left out the other half of the message you were quoting, but even that aside, it doesn't make sense in itself. How can I minimize his being absent when I don't even mention it.

Clearly not manipulating them and setting them up to fail so either way he gets what he wants which is five little dolls to fall in line with the carrot and stick under the guise of fatherly love and compassion


Oh yeah, setting them up to fail by compromising and proposing them to make Fuutarou work in tandem with another tutor for more efficiency, something that even the characters themselves acknowledged to be a better plan than just trying hard with Fuutarou.
Manipulating his daughters by telling them the reasons for his proposal ?


Again, do you have reading comprehension problems ? Are you making your headcannon ? Are you perhaps mixing-up two different manga ? Are you using words that you don't understand ?
You sure are to good to make claims, but not that good to back them up, huh ?

and clearly implying the good outweighs the bad

Yes, that's what I indeed think.


If anyone is making a straw man it's you.


I'm... baffled. I don't know what to say.
Do you know what a straw man is or are you using expressions without knowing what they mean ?
Or perhaps you accidentally deleted a part of your message ?




You're arguing from the literary equivalent of a flat earther.


Welp, that came out of nowhere, like a lot of things in your message.
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@Asta
You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about. Even if it seems good, throwing money at a situation like this doesn't make it good. It makes shit worse. That kinda crap is the reason rich kids like those end up being psychopaths like that affluenza lunatic. Have a problem? Being neglected? Feel lonely and miserable? Throw money at it and watch the fire grow.

Oh so you're a hypocrite, an apologist and lying too. You're the one minimizing by literally saying he's "a pretty good father", he "respects" them (Clearly not manipulating them and setting them up to fail so either way he gets what he wants which is five little dolls to fall in line with the carrot and stick under the guise of fatherly love and compassion) and clearly implying the good outweighs the bad. If anyone is making a straw man it's you.

You should have. You're arguing from the literary equivalent of a flat earther. And not everyone is as stupid as you and willing to consume your bullshit.
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@Asta
you seem to underestimate the kind of damage that emotional neglect from parents could lead to. This isn't that kind of manga so nothing will come of it, but irl it could easily be worse. Being neglected by parents is emotional abuse.
@guardshipburan
Fuutarou has gotten some results m8, what are you on about?
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@Yautja

My first message said that he's not as bad a father as people are making him out to be.
My second message detailed what's good about the current situation of the girls.
Which is why your message, implying that the girls are being abused, strike me as particularly stupid.

And even now, in your last message you decided to minimize everything I mentioned and pulled a straw man (When did I ever said that there was nothing wrong about the current situation ?) just to support your own argument.

I guess I should've known better than to try to argue with you huh ?
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@Asta
So money, and absolute freedom (neglect in this case) makes things okay. Good to know pumpkin.

I dunno about me, but you have to make an effort to achieve the levels of stupidity you have.
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Agree with @Asta. Right now from the father's (and non MC's) point of view, the girls are in a self-destructive relationship with a tutor who hasn't gotten any results. We're looking at this through MC-tinted glasses here.
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@Yautja

Oh yeah those poor abused girls.
They only have access to a driver who'll get them wherever they want, have a roof under their head, always eat their fill, get sent to school and have the liberty to get and change tutors, are free to pursue the job of their dreams, get to travel wherever they want and whenever they want, more cash than they could ever hope to spent, and more.
Shit, he even respect his daughters' resolution to pull through with Uesugi, so long as they accept that there'll be consequences should they fail, and he also overlooked the fact that Nino lied to him.

But he isn't there with them, so that's abuse huh ?

Were you born this stupid or are you doing it on purpose ?


@fodaobr22

I literally said in my very next sentence that he's far from being the best.

Last edited 26 days ago by Asta.

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Man, Fuutarou, you can't even carry a 10 kilo bag of rice? That's around 25 pounds...DUDE, at least do some push-ups! Future post-marriage activities go better with at least a little arm strength.

Dammit, give us the Miku Valentine's arc or we riot! F
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PRESS F FOR MIKU'S VALENTINE ARC
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@NotAWeaboo

when he came back from school trip
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@NotAWeaboo
maybe when he was younger?
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Wait, which chapter was it when Fuutarou met their dad in the hospital?
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Uesugi is basically the Father of the girls. (When you hate yourself.)
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I see the EATsuki is back.
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Who needs a cart in the supermarket when you have a Yotsuba?๐Ÿ˜‚
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GIVE MIKU HER VALENTINES ARC YOU HEARTLESS SERPENTS
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@fodaobr22
The guy you're replying to is one of three things.
    an idiot
    abused
    an abuser

Last edited 27 days ago by Yautja.

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why does she have match stick legs all of a sudden? Looks weird.
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@grandartillery

second
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Are they 2nd years or 3rd years?
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hats off to /a/non for being the faster group recently, always was frustrating those couple of hours I had to resist reading the other group
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Until the mangaka tell us his name....

Let's call papa : Nakano Azami or Azami

Deal?
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@Asta

pretty good father??
a father who does not live or visit his daughters? who only talks to them to complain and make demands .. I don't think so ..

he is right in his opinion about independence.. but being a father is not just a question of money ..
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wuuuh, nuu vuulntuun uurc??
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He seems like a pretty good father.

I mean, he's far from being the best, but as every character said in this chapter, everything he said make sense.
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Nino a best, as always.

Last edited 27 days ago by dragonite7.

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Miku was robbed... Again.
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Discount Azami is right, unfortunately. I like him.
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That feels concerningly rushed.
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GADDAMIT. I WANT TO SEE A MIKU ARC.
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There had better be a Valentine's Chocolate chapter SOMEWHERE, even if it's a tank extra chapter or something.
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I, too, would like to see a Valentine's arc staring best-girl Miku
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I remember the phrase, "Women are attracted to men that are like their fathers," but this is...
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Just another harem male beta BITCH Boi doing his thang
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Nino's with short hair is more cuter... still love her long hair too.
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@Istvan90623
He said when the final exam happens, but that doesn't mean it will happen next chapter, just that they have time up until that to change things.


The last page says: "And so time passed for each of them. Leading to the day of the final examination."
There's also the calendar showing "3", which means it's March already. In Japan, March is when school ends.

Everything is indicating that next chapter will be final exams.
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Actualy Azami proposal make sense....
God dammit itsuki
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Nino isnt my favourite character, but wow i still think she looks fantastic with her new haircut
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@sirius180 and Itsuki is the best at eating

Last edited 27 days ago by ma_ko.

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@huyhuy14 Miku is the worst at cooking, the best is Nino, i guess she's training for future event
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i just remembered they skipped valentine arc when editor reminded of me in the last page lol๐Ÿ˜
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This manga really isn't kidding around and just time-skip straight up to the main point without fooling around....Man, it's going quite fast.
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I mistake title as "foods battle", with Itsuki, that's not even a battle
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wait, no miku's arc with valentine? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I wonder why Miku needs chocolate... ( อก° อœส– อก°)( อก° อœส– อก°)( อก° อœส– อก°)( อก° อœส– อก°)( อก° อœส– อก°)
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Itsuki became cuter and fatter
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He said when the final exam happens, but that doesn't mean it will happen next chapter, just that they have time up until that to change things.
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Hhahh, I'd see, Fuutarou marrying all of them, would be a total dickslap into papa's face xddd
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Final exam already? Hmmm :/ Is it because the anime?
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@Hollow7F Chapter 33

Last edited 27 days ago by UDie2day.

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How would the anime adapt this? 1 chapter = 1 episode or a couple chapters =1 episode?
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Are we skipping right to the exam? I'm pretty sure the manga's not being cancelled given its sales
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the hospital...went was that? when he saw the girl from her past? cant remember the chapter, also wow the dad is an asshole
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One of every sandwhich you have please

we used the meme magic too irresponsibly, its power is too great to control.
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